In This Article
- The Podcast and the Reconciliation
- Who Is Involved
- Why It Matters in the Field
- What to Watch
Brené Brown and Adam Grant ended a four-year professional estrangement on March 19, 2026, with the debut of The Curiosity Shop, a new weekly video podcast launched on the Vox Media Podcast Network. According to a New York Times feature, the show aims to inject "regular doses of rationality and humility into popular discourse." The launch was later covered by People and confirmed in an appearance by both researchers on the Today show, where they spoke with anchor Craig Melvin about working together again after their public falling-out.
The Podcast and the Reconciliation
The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant is billed as a resource to help people build better relationships, according to People. The rift between the two stemmed from a professional disagreement, and the silence that followed lasted approximately four years, as reported by harianbasis.co. Per the New York Times, Grant addressed the reconciliation in a Substack post, acknowledging how their professional disagreement had deepened into personal distance before the two found common ground. On the Today show, both researchers spoke openly about what it was like to rebuild their working relationship and move forward collaboratively.
Who Is Involved
Brené Brown is a research professor at the University of Houston, where she holds the Huffington Foundation–Brené Brown Endowed Chair at the Graduate College of Social Work, and a visiting professor in management at the University of Texas at Austin McCombs School of Business, according to Penguin Random House. She has spent more than two decades studying courage, vulnerability, shame, and empathy, and is the author of multiple New York Times bestselling books. Her 2012 book Daring Greatly — built on twelve years of research and arguing that vulnerability is "our most accurate measure of courage" rather than a weakness — has sold more than two million copies, per Penguin Random House. For LuvemBooks' assessment of that title, see our full review. Her most recent major work, Atlas of the Heart, published in November 2021, maps eighty-seven emotions and experiences and provides a framework for meaningful human connection, as described by Penguin Random House.
Adam Grant is an organizational psychologist whose research focuses on work, motivation, and human potential. The new podcast is distributed through the Vox Media Podcast Network, one of the largest podcast publishers in the United States, according to readers.id.
Why It Matters in the Field
The collaboration is notable because Brown and Grant represent two distinct but overlapping strands of applied psychology. Brown's public work has long centered on vulnerability-based leadership and shame resilience, while Grant's has emphasized evidence-based approaches to organizational behavior. Their original public disagreement — centering on authenticity, per the New York Times — played out in a space where both researchers command large, overlapping audiences. A joint podcast on a major network signals a willingness by both parties to model, in practice, the kind of conflict repair and intellectual humility their respective bodies of work address in theory. The Today show interview underscored that dimension, with both researchers discussing the personal difficulty of their estrangement alongside the mechanics of the new show.
What to Watch
The Curiosity Shop debuted as a weekly video podcast, a format the New York Times highlighted as a deliberate choice for engaging with what the outlet called "the algorithmic swamp." Brown already hosts two active podcasts — Dare to Lead and Unlocking Us — noted by Penguin Random House, making The Curiosity Shop an addition to an existing audio presence rather than a standalone pivot. Whether the new show will address the substance of the researchers' original disagreement on authenticity directly remains to be seen from future episodes.